But as a person in charge of keeping a brand new (volunteer) FM station running smoothly, this is horrifying. I feel every technical problem physically in my body.
As a kid i remember being fascinated by technical difficulties screens, EAS tests, etc. Generally anything that unwittingly revealed the technical aspects of running a broadcast station. This was before we really knew how to use the internet even, so for many years, I'd wonder what a screen saying "No Access Card" or "Coriogen Eclipse" meant. When we learned about Google, it was suddenly a very educational experience to google these things and learn what was going on behind the scenes. I'm a software engineer today, but surely the nearest parallel universe version of me grew up to be a broadcast engineer.
On Toronto's public transportation, TTC, occasionally the upcoming bus stop ticker would flash diagnostic information(?) and "64K RAM" instead of the upcoming stop name. Doesn't seem like there's a wiki page about these faults yet.
I think I get it too. There's a strange, hard-to-describe feeling there for me. It's like a "comfy, but darkly eerie" feeling whenever something like a broadcast technical difficulty or "Max Headroom"-esque event happens.
Like, I'm sitting comfy watching TV, and there's some technical glitch that pulls back the curtain a little bit. It's interesting and not as irritating as a bug in say a website, because I'm still intrinsically doing the activity I was previously (watching television), I'm just now inexplicably watching a different broadcast.
Who knows, it might be the dreamlike quality Cartoon Network/Toonami/Adult Swim had in the late 90s/early 2000s as well. The technical glitches fit thematically with the low-fi beats.
When Nick GAS shut down, somehow, Dish Network had an automated loop of the channel that they themselves kept running for about 15 months after the channel’s demise. I’m curious what systems at Dish Network were still running a ghost channel by itself like that. Did they just get delivered loops of programming to shove on the air from Nick directly and just leave it up? I would have figured Dish would have been getting a feed from Viacom that would have dropped at the same time as GAS itself.
Knowing cable companies that was probably until all contracts with that channel as part of the subscription ended. They had to keep the channel running otherwise they might need to refund people.
I suppose it makes sense if your channel doesn't have a lot of new or live programming to just send a tape instead of setting up a feed.
I always wondered about these types of channels back then, that had absolutely no original programming, and very few if any commercials. What was the plan with them? Were they just trying to keep brand familiarity? Was it so difficult to get a channel spot that they didn't want to lose it? But if so, why go through all the hassle to get the spot with no income stream?
Weirdly GAS was a popular channel back in the day but was offered only on higher tier cable packages (in my market, it required Digital Cable, which meant hoping your parents were willing to splurge for the extra package, the digital box (or boxes)…). I assume the income stream was more being delivered from offering GAS as a ‘premium’ channel, then eventually it became an automated vehicle that just got lumped into a “bundle” of channels being sold to the cable companies (eg “Buy Nick for your customers and we’ll throw in GAS and Jr”) once they stopped providing actual live content for it circa 2004-2005.
This is the rare opportunity I get to flex my broadcast experience. Generally these are setup in a chain:
Playlists -> Playback -> Character Generator (draws the bugs, coming up next, and other graphics overtop), -> (other stuff) -> Network feed
> July 16, 2023: About 17 minutes into the 1:00pm airing of the Teen Titans Go! episode "And the Award for Sound Design Goes to Rob / Some of Their Parts", the feed blacked out for six seconds, then the screenbug disappeared for the rest of the episode. The screenbug returned during the 1:30pm airing of the episode "Cat's Fancy".
This sounds to me like the character generator failing and the playback being taken directly to air.
I worked for 10 years in broadcast, as a director, IT support, and an Engineer.
I love picking errors out of any broadcast, especially with what I know now.
Seeing things like this and other documented cases of broadcast errors always make me happy because I know how hard it is sometimes to be in that line of work and how easy it is to just make little blips here and there.
Making errors is how I learned to never get between older people and their midday TV dramas. They absolutely know how to get a hold of you if they miss a few minutes of Young and Restless!
Broadcast errors are not only interesting to watch, they also made TV feel human and alive. Nowadays, watching most cable channels feels like staring at the output of a VLC playlist with ten movies on loop.
As someone who has moderated online communities in the past, I recognize the value in having a page like this, to which you can point people if they want to enumerate such trifles instead of discussing the episodes or series themselves. Rather than just say such discussion is off-topic, you give them a separate, on-topic place to discuss it.
(I don't actually know if that is how this page came about, but it seems similar to other wiki pages I've seen used for such a purpose.)
Sometimes it's just amazing to look at how much dedication someone put into a list like this, and wonder what they do with this information. It's inspiring (to me at least.)
In a park near my hotel, there's an elderly gentleman who uses a giant brush to paint calligraphy on concrete walkways every morning. He paints it with water - so it gradually evaporates over the course of the next hour or so. I admire his work in the same way I admire this web page.
I am guessing someone who works at the station shared some internal documents.
I remember in the mid 90s watching Nickelodeon before school and they played an entire 30m block of commercials instead of a program. They probably lost the tape or something.
There are definitely outside organizations whose sole responsibility is to monitor TV/radio broadcasts and nowadays even podcast sponsor breaks to ensure that ad copy is inserted as agreed. (Source: I was contracted to do some of that work for a time.)
If people are watching your work closely enough to document errors in it, and they care enough to make a wiki page, you’re doing truly great work.
I completely agree.
But as a person in charge of keeping a brand new (volunteer) FM station running smoothly, this is horrifying. I feel every technical problem physically in my body.
It's not them, it's me.
Yes exactly. And this is an incredibly short list. Great engineering over there.
To be fair, there is no way to know if the list is complete or not.
It almost certainly isn't. Some TV engineers are discovering the list right now and biting their tongues.
Preach.
And now compare to modern endless stream of junk that flows into oblivion.
I completely understand the kind of mind that would catalog such a thing.
This wouldn't be my thing to catalog, but I'm glad somebody did it.
As a kid i remember being fascinated by technical difficulties screens, EAS tests, etc. Generally anything that unwittingly revealed the technical aspects of running a broadcast station. This was before we really knew how to use the internet even, so for many years, I'd wonder what a screen saying "No Access Card" or "Coriogen Eclipse" meant. When we learned about Google, it was suddenly a very educational experience to google these things and learn what was going on behind the scenes. I'm a software engineer today, but surely the nearest parallel universe version of me grew up to be a broadcast engineer.
On Toronto's public transportation, TTC, occasionally the upcoming bus stop ticker would flash diagnostic information(?) and "64K RAM" instead of the upcoming stop name. Doesn't seem like there's a wiki page about these faults yet.
Actually, the Canadian government suppresses it because they just really don’t want anyone to know how to get to 64K RAM, ON.
What would they be running them on that has so little memory these days? Esp32?
I think I get it too. There's a strange, hard-to-describe feeling there for me. It's like a "comfy, but darkly eerie" feeling whenever something like a broadcast technical difficulty or "Max Headroom"-esque event happens.
Like, I'm sitting comfy watching TV, and there's some technical glitch that pulls back the curtain a little bit. It's interesting and not as irritating as a bug in say a website, because I'm still intrinsically doing the activity I was previously (watching television), I'm just now inexplicably watching a different broadcast.
Who knows, it might be the dreamlike quality Cartoon Network/Toonami/Adult Swim had in the late 90s/early 2000s as well. The technical glitches fit thematically with the low-fi beats.
My favorite niche catalog is this list of chairs of star trek: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/database/chairs-trek.htm
I’m suddenly reminded of a fairly large channel error from one of CN’s competitors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_Games_and_Sports_f...
When Nick GAS shut down, somehow, Dish Network had an automated loop of the channel that they themselves kept running for about 15 months after the channel’s demise. I’m curious what systems at Dish Network were still running a ghost channel by itself like that. Did they just get delivered loops of programming to shove on the air from Nick directly and just leave it up? I would have figured Dish would have been getting a feed from Viacom that would have dropped at the same time as GAS itself.
Knowing cable companies that was probably until all contracts with that channel as part of the subscription ended. They had to keep the channel running otherwise they might need to refund people.
I suppose it makes sense if your channel doesn't have a lot of new or live programming to just send a tape instead of setting up a feed.
I always wondered about these types of channels back then, that had absolutely no original programming, and very few if any commercials. What was the plan with them? Were they just trying to keep brand familiarity? Was it so difficult to get a channel spot that they didn't want to lose it? But if so, why go through all the hassle to get the spot with no income stream?
Weirdly GAS was a popular channel back in the day but was offered only on higher tier cable packages (in my market, it required Digital Cable, which meant hoping your parents were willing to splurge for the extra package, the digital box (or boxes)…). I assume the income stream was more being delivered from offering GAS as a ‘premium’ channel, then eventually it became an automated vehicle that just got lumped into a “bundle” of channels being sold to the cable companies (eg “Buy Nick for your customers and we’ll throw in GAS and Jr”) once they stopped providing actual live content for it circa 2004-2005.
TIL that showing a screenbug on the screen was an absolute pain. Also TIL what a screenbug is.
This is the rare opportunity I get to flex my broadcast experience. Generally these are setup in a chain:
> July 16, 2023: About 17 minutes into the 1:00pm airing of the Teen Titans Go! episode "And the Award for Sound Design Goes to Rob / Some of Their Parts", the feed blacked out for six seconds, then the screenbug disappeared for the rest of the episode. The screenbug returned during the 1:30pm airing of the episode "Cat's Fancy".This sounds to me like the character generator failing and the playback being taken directly to air.
TIL that a dog is a bug
I worked for 10 years in broadcast, as a director, IT support, and an Engineer.
I love picking errors out of any broadcast, especially with what I know now.
Seeing things like this and other documented cases of broadcast errors always make me happy because I know how hard it is sometimes to be in that line of work and how easy it is to just make little blips here and there.
Making errors is how I learned to never get between older people and their midday TV dramas. They absolutely know how to get a hold of you if they miss a few minutes of Young and Restless!
Broadcast errors are not only interesting to watch, they also made TV feel human and alive. Nowadays, watching most cable channels feels like staring at the output of a VLC playlist with ten movies on loop.
You mean that channel that plays nothing but "Teen Titans Go"?
To be fair any errors during Space Ghost: Coast to Coast were indistinguishable from just trolling the audience.
As someone who has moderated online communities in the past, I recognize the value in having a page like this, to which you can point people if they want to enumerate such trifles instead of discussing the episodes or series themselves. Rather than just say such discussion is off-topic, you give them a separate, on-topic place to discuss it.
(I don't actually know if that is how this page came about, but it seems similar to other wiki pages I've seen used for such a purpose.)
Hats off to you sir
But how ?
And why?
Sometimes it's just amazing to look at how much dedication someone put into a list like this, and wonder what they do with this information. It's inspiring (to me at least.)
In a park near my hotel, there's an elderly gentleman who uses a giant brush to paint calligraphy on concrete walkways every morning. He paints it with water - so it gradually evaporates over the course of the next hour or so. I admire his work in the same way I admire this web page.
The table of events reminded me of an SCP article, except without any sort of buildup towards something supernatural.
> And why?
Exercise for Jira. /s
I am guessing someone who works at the station shared some internal documents.
I remember in the mid 90s watching Nickelodeon before school and they played an entire 30m block of commercials instead of a program. They probably lost the tape or something.
I can imagine that it used to be valuable information for advertisers or respectively for the channel as preparation for advertisers complaints.
There are definitely outside organizations whose sole responsibility is to monitor TV/radio broadcasts and nowadays even podcast sponsor breaks to ensure that ad copy is inserted as agreed. (Source: I was contracted to do some of that work for a time.)