I guess a business reason for scroll lock in the TV UIs is that it immediately shows more recommendations as you scroll right, which I suppose could increase engagement.
My pc, maybe because of the external keyboard I'm using, occasionally decides that Scroll Lock is On and then Excel becomes unusable ... The solution is to bring up the On Screen Keyboard and toggle the virtual scroll lock key ...
I wonder how that happens? Do you press Ctrl-Home a lot (to go to the very start of a document), and maybe you missed and hit Fn-Home, if you have a Dell OEM keyboard https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... , Fn-Home toggles Scroll Lock...
I started my career in finance, and I used scroll lock constantly. When you're spending twelve hours a day in Excel, moving around quickly with just the keyboard starts to matter.
Even today, my keyboard remap file swaps it with "insert" to put it in easier reach (it's also far less potentially destructive when pressed accidentally).
Scrolling on TV strangely annoying. To see any more options on Apple TV you have to go all the way to right and then start going actually to the right. On Netflix can’t search easily. Have to bring everything back to left most first.
tv ui favors larger elements and longer transitions to make focus & change more legible for distant viewing. at 1m-3m people have a harder time following the ui. tv browsing is also much more frequently a group activity, where one person is pushing buttons and so knows what transition will happen, but others on the couch need to follow the activity too. different modality & ui priority compared to phone or desktop which are much closer to the face and much more personal/single player.
I use firefox and have my autoplay policy set to aggressive no. There's an icon left of the address bar that shows a crossed-out play button when scripted video is prevented. If I click on that play button, I can select "always allow," and the videos will be allowed to play. That's all it took for me.
I set that option one day when a news website would autoplay a video every time I scrolled (I think it was the New York Times). This sent me into a fit of rage and now I prefer the inconvenience of having to reselect "allow all" almost every time I visit a site with video.
Except the other examples used to work like Apple’s and have switched to the scroll locked implementation.
I think I prefer that mode to be honest, because it leaves you in a consistent place for up/down to take you to instead of it potentially depending where your selection is in the row.
Yeah the real pain is button pressing down / up / back in the TV UI. Definitely a fun grab bag of possible outcomes! I don’t think there’s a good solution without a militant UI person in charge of the whole shebang - some radical simplification would likely be needed.
The reality is that the click ipod was much better at scrolling media than the Apple TV is. And I own a lot of Apple TVs - I think it’s a good device. But it was far faster to scroll through media 20 years ago.
- none of the above links work, a lot of dudes sharing blogs on HN absolutely do not check if they have a page where all the articles are seen in one glance (titles only)
- bro look at this other dude https://xnacly.me/posts/ his post was right below yours, look how beautifully this page has put up titles of every post with tags no less! cant we have something like this for your blog
I guess a business reason for scroll lock in the TV UIs is that it immediately shows more recommendations as you scroll right, which I suppose could increase engagement.
I was today's years old when I learned what Scroll Lock was used for. And I've not had a keyboard with it for about 15 years.
You and me both. This was a surprisingly elucidating post about something that has essentially hasn’t been an option for me in a long time, hah.
My pc, maybe because of the external keyboard I'm using, occasionally decides that Scroll Lock is On and then Excel becomes unusable ... The solution is to bring up the On Screen Keyboard and toggle the virtual scroll lock key ...
I wonder how that happens? Do you press Ctrl-Home a lot (to go to the very start of a document), and maybe you missed and hit Fn-Home, if you have a Dell OEM keyboard https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F... , Fn-Home toggles Scroll Lock...
Yeah I suspect its something like that. Its been hard to track down because its only noticable once you fire excel up
I started my career in finance, and I used scroll lock constantly. When you're spending twelve hours a day in Excel, moving around quickly with just the keyboard starts to matter.
Even today, my keyboard remap file swaps it with "insert" to put it in easier reach (it's also far less potentially destructive when pressed accidentally).
Scrolling on TV strangely annoying. To see any more options on Apple TV you have to go all the way to right and then start going actually to the right. On Netflix can’t search easily. Have to bring everything back to left most first.
God how i hate these unresponsive TV interfaces. Even the apple TV feels slow and like it renders at half a frame per second.
Instead of selecting something you already see, it feels like you're discovering something that's slow to render.
Imagine your PCs desktop was like this, or your phone's app list. Click once per "next selection." It would drive me mad.
tv ui favors larger elements and longer transitions to make focus & change more legible for distant viewing. at 1m-3m people have a harder time following the ui. tv browsing is also much more frequently a group activity, where one person is pushing buttons and so knows what transition will happen, but others on the couch need to follow the activity too. different modality & ui priority compared to phone or desktop which are much closer to the face and much more personal/single player.
i've always advocated for floor mounted levers.
I believe the correct mechanic is to have the character move around the center of the screen freely and scroll when they approach the edge.
The videos on this site don't work for me. I see two related in errors in Chrome Dev Tools:
Uncaught (in promise) AbortError: The play() request was interrupted by a call to pause().
Uncaught (in promise) NotSupportedError: Failed to load because no supported source was found.
I use firefox and have my autoplay policy set to aggressive no. There's an icon left of the address bar that shows a crossed-out play button when scripted video is prevented. If I click on that play button, I can select "always allow," and the videos will be allowed to play. That's all it took for me.
I set that option one day when a news website would autoplay a video every time I scrolled (I think it was the New York Times). This sent me into a fit of rage and now I prefer the inconvenience of having to reselect "allow all" almost every time I visit a site with video.
I hate the new way scrolling works in the Youtube & Netflix apps. So janky.
TV examples show that Apple simply has done their scrolling right, while everyone else did not work out the necessary details.
Except the other examples used to work like Apple’s and have switched to the scroll locked implementation.
I think I prefer that mode to be honest, because it leaves you in a consistent place for up/down to take you to instead of it potentially depending where your selection is in the row.
Yeah the real pain is button pressing down / up / back in the TV UI. Definitely a fun grab bag of possible outcomes! I don’t think there’s a good solution without a militant UI person in charge of the whole shebang - some radical simplification would likely be needed.
The reality is that the click ipod was much better at scrolling media than the Apple TV is. And I own a lot of Apple TVs - I think it’s a good device. But it was far faster to scroll through media 20 years ago.
you can navigate lists (and scrub media playback) on Apple TV using the iPod click wheel gesture!
> Circle your finger around the clickpad ring for more precise control (silver remote only).
https://support.apple.com/guide/tv/navigate-apple-tv-4k-atvb...
I know. If you have an old iPod, try it. I stand by my review; I think it's probably 3x as much latency.
- bro you really need to ramp the ux of your blog
- i just wanted to take a quick glance at all the posts to see if anything catches my eye
- https://unsung.aresluna.org/all
- https://unsung.aresluna.org/archive
- https://unsung.aresluna.org/archives
- https://unsung.aresluna.org/posts
- https://unsung.aresluna.org/blog
- none of the above links work, a lot of dudes sharing blogs on HN absolutely do not check if they have a page where all the articles are seen in one glance (titles only)
- bro look at this other dude https://xnacly.me/posts/ his post was right below yours, look how beautifully this page has put up titles of every post with tags no less! cant we have something like this for your blog
Did you try https://unsung.aresluna.org/ (which is linked from the logo in the header)?
throws a wall of text at your face with 500k words on it, why not give a page with only titles?