Jesus Christ finally. I'm not joking when I say that the old text tool wasn't simply bad, it was THE WORST text tool I ever used. If you had a dark theme and made the text black, you literally couldn't see the text you were editing!
I believe the last feature Krita needs to become a decent design tool would be fixing the layer styles so you can add the same style multiple times to the same layer (and if possible better bevel and 3D text tools). An immense number of designs are not much more than multiple strokes or "slightly" 3D text. Multiple strokes can be done in Krita in a very complicated and impractical way (you can do it by adding the layer style to a group, but with too many strokes the rounding errors make the outer strokes "flat," so the "correct" way would be to add the largest stroke first and then use clones to add the inner strokes). Photopea (a free online editor) supports both of these.
My opinion is that Krita has a tremendous amount of potential to serve a free and open source application for several niche use cases, but it's routinely held back by lacking "that one feature the user will need." Probably because everyone still thinks it's just an application for illustration and can't be used for image editing or design.
Animation is probably the most obvious one. Krita has an entire curves-based timeline editor, but the integration is so poor that it can only be used to animate opacity and the simplest type of transforms (translate, rotate, scale). That's an incredible waste considering it has cage transform, perspective transform, etc. All the non-destructive filters already have the code to serialize their settings to XML and back, but somehow those settings can't be animated? The liquefy transform, by far the most powerful, can't be animated. If transform masks had opacity and you could animate that, even that could be extremely useful, but they don't so they can't be animated in general.
Layer styles are another integration problem. Many users don't know they exist because they're hidden in the context menu. Krita already has filter masks. It doesn't even need a separate UI for layer styles, the styles could just be filters instead, then they would be able to get drag-n-dropped around and you could add multiple of the same to a single layer. Apparently this is because they want compatibility with Photoshop, but you could just convert Krita filter masks into Photoshop styles in the save step, so I don't really understand the problem. Naturally if the filter settings ever became animatable, that would mean layer styles would NOT be animatable in virtue of them not being filters, which would suck a lot.
By the way, I haven't tested the new version yet but Krita ALREADY has a color overlay layer style. So it looks like they simply... duplicated a feature they already had? Also the UI looks very similar to Clip Studio Paint, but a key difference in CSP is that single-color layers use 8 bit pixels instead of full 32 bit RGBA. I'm afraid this UI I'm seeing in the video is going to mislead some users into creating dozens of 32 bit layers with color overlay for easy color management and then end up with much worse performance than they would have in similar software. It also seems the color overlay "mask" behaves in a way that is completely different from literally every other mask in the software. I guess I'll have to download it to know for sure.
Edit: by "3d text" I sincerely don't mean more than WordArt level stuff. A lot of text for mobile games is very basic "curved text + vanishing point 3D + multiple strokes." Krita also lacks a "long shadow" style (i.e. infinite shadow instead of a drop shadow), which is common in a lot of designs and that GIMP has.
Most of the transfors you describe are still unfortunately destructive (ie the only way to go back is to undo). I'm not an expert on this, but I think the only way this could be key framed would be to take snapshots of the pixels and insert the modified raster data as keyframes? I'm not sure there's a good/correct/obviously way to interpolate betweens say a before and after liquefy operation the way it currently works. Maybe some of them coul store brush+inputs (pressure, cursor movement, etc) but that seems difficult to work with as an artist. Again, not done much animation (as a dev or artist) so maybe I'm just out of the loop completely
But yeah I agree with you in principle though, it would be nice if these were non-destructive and could be keyframed.
They are all non-destructive in Krita. Just use a transform mask and go to tool options, select liquefy and after you liquefy however you want you can just hide the transform mask and it stops liquefying the layer.
Yes, Krita has had this feature for years. Non-destructive filters (adjustment layers), too.
GIMP still doesn't have it. Only in 3.0 it got adjustment layers for filters.
Oh, this is news to me! I've used Krita to pain (recreational noob, not on a professional level) and I never realised this. I'll play with this tomorrow
Nice! Two days after I installed 5.3.0-beta because I needed a feature that 5.2 didn't have. Now I can undo all the custom install again to get it from the AUR. (I have not yet succeeded in using that feature effectively.)
> Enjoy the completely new text feature: on canvas editing, full opentype support, text flowing into shapes.
Thank you developers! Krita is otherwise great to use, but used to be horrible when working with text. Really looking forward to trying this out.
Jesus Christ finally. I'm not joking when I say that the old text tool wasn't simply bad, it was THE WORST text tool I ever used. If you had a dark theme and made the text black, you literally couldn't see the text you were editing!
I believe the last feature Krita needs to become a decent design tool would be fixing the layer styles so you can add the same style multiple times to the same layer (and if possible better bevel and 3D text tools). An immense number of designs are not much more than multiple strokes or "slightly" 3D text. Multiple strokes can be done in Krita in a very complicated and impractical way (you can do it by adding the layer style to a group, but with too many strokes the rounding errors make the outer strokes "flat," so the "correct" way would be to add the largest stroke first and then use clones to add the inner strokes). Photopea (a free online editor) supports both of these.
My opinion is that Krita has a tremendous amount of potential to serve a free and open source application for several niche use cases, but it's routinely held back by lacking "that one feature the user will need." Probably because everyone still thinks it's just an application for illustration and can't be used for image editing or design.
Animation is probably the most obvious one. Krita has an entire curves-based timeline editor, but the integration is so poor that it can only be used to animate opacity and the simplest type of transforms (translate, rotate, scale). That's an incredible waste considering it has cage transform, perspective transform, etc. All the non-destructive filters already have the code to serialize their settings to XML and back, but somehow those settings can't be animated? The liquefy transform, by far the most powerful, can't be animated. If transform masks had opacity and you could animate that, even that could be extremely useful, but they don't so they can't be animated in general.
Layer styles are another integration problem. Many users don't know they exist because they're hidden in the context menu. Krita already has filter masks. It doesn't even need a separate UI for layer styles, the styles could just be filters instead, then they would be able to get drag-n-dropped around and you could add multiple of the same to a single layer. Apparently this is because they want compatibility with Photoshop, but you could just convert Krita filter masks into Photoshop styles in the save step, so I don't really understand the problem. Naturally if the filter settings ever became animatable, that would mean layer styles would NOT be animatable in virtue of them not being filters, which would suck a lot.
By the way, I haven't tested the new version yet but Krita ALREADY has a color overlay layer style. So it looks like they simply... duplicated a feature they already had? Also the UI looks very similar to Clip Studio Paint, but a key difference in CSP is that single-color layers use 8 bit pixels instead of full 32 bit RGBA. I'm afraid this UI I'm seeing in the video is going to mislead some users into creating dozens of 32 bit layers with color overlay for easy color management and then end up with much worse performance than they would have in similar software. It also seems the color overlay "mask" behaves in a way that is completely different from literally every other mask in the software. I guess I'll have to download it to know for sure.
Edit: by "3d text" I sincerely don't mean more than WordArt level stuff. A lot of text for mobile games is very basic "curved text + vanishing point 3D + multiple strokes." Krita also lacks a "long shadow" style (i.e. infinite shadow instead of a drop shadow), which is common in a lot of designs and that GIMP has.
Most of the transfors you describe are still unfortunately destructive (ie the only way to go back is to undo). I'm not an expert on this, but I think the only way this could be key framed would be to take snapshots of the pixels and insert the modified raster data as keyframes? I'm not sure there's a good/correct/obviously way to interpolate betweens say a before and after liquefy operation the way it currently works. Maybe some of them coul store brush+inputs (pressure, cursor movement, etc) but that seems difficult to work with as an artist. Again, not done much animation (as a dev or artist) so maybe I'm just out of the loop completely
But yeah I agree with you in principle though, it would be nice if these were non-destructive and could be keyframed.
They are all non-destructive in Krita. Just use a transform mask and go to tool options, select liquefy and after you liquefy however you want you can just hide the transform mask and it stops liquefying the layer.
Yes, Krita has had this feature for years. Non-destructive filters (adjustment layers), too.
GIMP still doesn't have it. Only in 3.0 it got adjustment layers for filters.
Oh, this is news to me! I've used Krita to pain (recreational noob, not on a professional level) and I never realised this. I'll play with this tomorrow
Nice! Two days after I installed 5.3.0-beta because I needed a feature that 5.2 didn't have. Now I can undo all the custom install again to get it from the AUR. (I have not yet succeeded in using that feature effectively.)
Aha an Arch Linux user
It seems they finally got past the “final final final” bugfix updates for 5.2.
Been waiting for this for a year+ so it’s awesome to see it finally out.