With this change of policy the foundation does not "have any control or influence over what WinGet does", one of the first class methods to install python.
For a while, HN has been almost exclusively my news source about tech on MS Windows. Every time I read about something happening in that awful place I give myself a virtual pet on the shoulder and let out a sigh of relief. Tech that's either unremarkable or even decent on Linux turns insanely hostile on MS Windows...
I can understand people locked into this system by their evil and incompetent management. But why would individuals unconstrained by corporate policies choose to use this? It's not just the system itself. It's like Microsoft only sets the stage, and then everyone using the system collectively tries to make it even more hostile.
> But why would individuals unconstrained by corporate policies choose to use this
I know this might be incomprehensible, but some people, some of them even software developers, run more on their OS than just terminal CLI tools.
And for others the lack of customizability is a feature. You can't install a different desktop environment. You can't customize the task bar too much. Which also means you can't get your OS to a broken state as easily.
rip to the .exe installer - honestly overdue, since python on windows has been a rite of passage in suffering for too long, and leaning into winget/store is the right call
They should honestly just instead back `scoop` as the default way to install Python on Windows. It's clean, sits nicely in userspace and handles CLI execution aliases elegantly.
With this change of policy the foundation does not "have any control or influence over what WinGet does", one of the first class methods to install python.
https://github.com/python/pymanager/issues/287
> To install using WinGet, the command is "winget install 9NQ7512CXL7T"
Is the package name on purpose?
Yes.
winget install ICURAIDI0TFU seemed unsuitable for production.
winget install 8NDEADBEEF9N offended some.
winget install 0%U#I#$#$$## had too much hash and blow for some US states.
winget install python3.11 was too obvious.
No?
For a while, HN has been almost exclusively my news source about tech on MS Windows. Every time I read about something happening in that awful place I give myself a virtual pet on the shoulder and let out a sigh of relief. Tech that's either unremarkable or even decent on Linux turns insanely hostile on MS Windows...
I can understand people locked into this system by their evil and incompetent management. But why would individuals unconstrained by corporate policies choose to use this? It's not just the system itself. It's like Microsoft only sets the stage, and then everyone using the system collectively tries to make it even more hostile.
> But why would individuals unconstrained by corporate policies choose to use this
I know this might be incomprehensible, but some people, some of them even software developers, run more on their OS than just terminal CLI tools.
And for others the lack of customizability is a feature. You can't install a different desktop environment. You can't customize the task bar too much. Which also means you can't get your OS to a broken state as easily.
90's called, they want your opinions on Linux GUI back
rip to the .exe installer - honestly overdue, since python on windows has been a rite of passage in suffering for too long, and leaning into winget/store is the right call
They should honestly just instead back `scoop` as the default way to install Python on Windows. It's clean, sits nicely in userspace and handles CLI execution aliases elegantly.
So now you're forced to use Microslop Store to get Python? At the very least they could offer .msix files to download and use.
"Use of the Store app or the MSIX package is recommended."
There's a big ole green download link on there for the MSIX lol.
MSIX is what ships on the store. And some devs just use it as an installer as well. By the way aren’t MSIX installed apps sandboxed?
> Python install manager will automatically update within a day of an update being released
Totally something that someone in his right mind will not want to.
Also impatiently waiting for the day that the org will be blocked on the store so that the morons that decided that can be rewarded...
Also, how can you do an offline install?