So, we are giving up privacy in all our electronic communications because a bunch of companies can’t stop running algorithms to drive up engagement? From the article above, it seems Snapchat messaging would work just fine if kids had to touch phones to exchange contacts. Versus putting everybody in 24x7 AI surveillance, the lesser bad here is to forbid those algorithms, even if that bankrupts the platforms.
But think of those poor megacorps! How will they ever turn a profit without their precious algorithms? Invading every user‘s privacy is only morally right! What else could they, or governments, possibly do? Make line not go up? I shudder to think!
The reality is these platforms are optimized to use any content to increase page views and ad revenue. I am typically not an advocate of regulation, however at the very least restrict these platforms to 18 and older
The uncomfortable truth is HN needs to see this. And the usual responses of “it’s the job of the parents to police this, not society and not laws” should have one comment thread dedicated so they can all echo to each other the same statement over and over while the rest of the thread actually talks about the article and the societal issues at hand.
Its not. A big problem with the way it was handled is that non logged in users aren't affected. So Youtube for instance, cant tailor its suggestions for the users age, and they get suggested really screwed up shit instead.
Age verification sucks. But most of these platforms need to be atomised, not restricted.
the companies will have no one but themselves to blame when they’re regulated in and out.
if the companies don’t care at all about people and society to take actual material concrete steps to help, then we don’t need to care about them.
if they don’t care about me and mine, then i don’t care about them.
if a company cares about profits at any cost and has no regard for people, regulate them right out of business. i’m ok with that, they don’t care about me, have no obligation towards them.
So, we are giving up privacy in all our electronic communications because a bunch of companies can’t stop running algorithms to drive up engagement? From the article above, it seems Snapchat messaging would work just fine if kids had to touch phones to exchange contacts. Versus putting everybody in 24x7 AI surveillance, the lesser bad here is to forbid those algorithms, even if that bankrupts the platforms.
But think of those poor megacorps! How will they ever turn a profit without their precious algorithms? Invading every user‘s privacy is only morally right! What else could they, or governments, possibly do? Make line not go up? I shudder to think!
The reality is these platforms are optimized to use any content to increase page views and ad revenue. I am typically not an advocate of regulation, however at the very least restrict these platforms to 18 and older
The uncomfortable truth is HN needs to see this. And the usual responses of “it’s the job of the parents to police this, not society and not laws” should have one comment thread dedicated so they can all echo to each other the same statement over and over while the rest of the thread actually talks about the article and the societal issues at hand.
Yes I think when the social media bans (e.g. Australia, UK) are mentioned _this_ is the context that the conversation is missing.
Its not. A big problem with the way it was handled is that non logged in users aren't affected. So Youtube for instance, cant tailor its suggestions for the users age, and they get suggested really screwed up shit instead.
Age verification sucks. But most of these platforms need to be atomised, not restricted.
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When a minor gets online it is only a matter of when not if before they get questions about their underwear.
You should read the article
Surely that falls under the 25% sexually suggestive messages in the article
You might want to re-read the hn guidelines.
it really is wild.
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again.
the companies will have no one but themselves to blame when they’re regulated in and out.
if the companies don’t care at all about people and society to take actual material concrete steps to help, then we don’t need to care about them.
if they don’t care about me and mine, then i don’t care about them.
if a company cares about profits at any cost and has no regard for people, regulate them right out of business. i’m ok with that, they don’t care about me, have no obligation towards them.
I think it is undeniable that that would fuck you up. Imagine, that's what you see, normalized...
What the fuck
yeah, that's fucked.